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I'm curious...
A lot of outsiders think being in this industry is such a glamorous thing, I disagree, the "glamour-part" might be 10% of it. In my opinion that is.
I experience a lot of stupid shit in this biz that sometimes makes me wonder why the hell I am in it in the first place, and then I remember, it's my passion.
What's the worst thing for you in this music business?
What's the thing you hate most about being in this biz?
(Whatever it may be that you do in the business)
Whew,
I can go on and on but the main thing is no one puts value on your work
For instance, I'm in the lab sun up to sun down so I get pissed when Rinky Dink Records(which is a fictionary label made up by a rinky dink artist) hits me with the whole" that beat is off the chain, let me have it for free" Ugh. This is how i live. This is my nine to five and you want me to work for free! At least offer gas money, dinner, heck I'd even go for a klondike bar but not free!
A lot of promoters and other people making money off you. There is a lot here in LA and neighboring areas in Southern California. It seems like these people want to make money off the artists while they wont get compensated what so ever even just for gas.
The whole PAY TO PLAY (sell this much tickets in order to play)
In addition, sometimes when you help these promoters promote the show that you will be in, they usually fucked you over by cutting your set short, they wont let your friends get in for free or with a discount, PROMISES are usually bullshit (Get it in WRITING if possible)
Just a lot of people really that wants to make money off your passion thru ways that makes you feel disgusted and it gets frustrated.
the whole PAY TO PLAY to me is bogus...we are pretty much paying for the MAJOR HEADLINER to come and he dont even have people coming for him except our fans.
Shit is ridiculous. So we dont do the whole pay to play thing now.
Philosophy now is if its a festival and exposure to 1,000+ people then we can negotiate something.
I don't get this though.
If you are getting booked by promoters, aint they sposed to pay YOU?
Why would one even pay to get booked, thats the world upside down....
That would be like you giving me payola to get you airplay. If you're really good, people would want your shit, without you having to pay for it.....right?
doesn't work that way..I have seen some pretty wack shows in my lifetime..some dude got booed the whole time at this one club i was at. there's no way in hell people paid to see him. it makes sense though...you don't start getting paid until you can draw a crowd..and you can't draw a crowd without exposure...and exposure costs money. makes sense to me. I hate the whole driving around aspect..if I could just do a show in my backyard every week that'd be a good look.
Nah i disagree, you can create a buzz by spreading your music, especially in the time of the internet etc, its really not that hard if you're shit is good and you can find a fanbase for it.
Spreading mixtapes, or even just throwing links online etc, can easily get people to take to your music and create the buzz so promoters will get interested and see money in you.
Plus, networking can do a lot for you too without getting paid. If you hook up with the right people, they may be able to even just hook u up as extra act, support act or shit even 3 minute warmup act to the crowd. Nobody can expect to get paid if you aint put in the work yet, the blood sweat and tears, not just the music side, but also the business side. But that's just my opinion....
Extra act is the way to go, I move around a lot for work so I end up starting over in a scene every couple years, the only way I have ever got regular shows was by linking up with cats doing it weekly then just taging along. Till I get to know the club owner's or production company ect ect ... and they get to know me
Yeah, you gotta pay dues in this game.
Especially since money is being made like it used to be. Promotors and agents realize that everyone wants to be an artist(not just talented people but PEOPLE) so they don't discrimintate on who can play as long as they pay. Furthermore, I think it is essential for people to do their own shows, start their own labels, and create their own lane. This will bring balance back to the game!
artists who don't show up for soundcheck, then when their sound is fucked up in the middle of their set, they stand on stage & yell at the soundman. We had a very big name artist who never came to soundcheck, who was rocking over a cd! (don't get me started on that) whose cd skipped about 2 songs in & he had to end his show. Whose fault was that? Why, the soundman's of course!
artists who have no consideration for the other artists on the bill. If your set time is 30 mins & there are 2 acts + a headliner left to play after you, don't try to go onstage & perform every song in your catalog.
artists who act like we make so much money off them. 1/2 the time we lose money. You're the ones with the guarantee, not us. I book acts whose work I like, I don't do it based on who's gonna make me rich. If you're not Dipset or G-Unit, theres a good chance your promoter is coming out of pocket at the end of the night.
